Sunday, November 11, 2007

what are you waiting for?

"What are you waiting for? another day another dawn? somewhere we have to find a new way to peace" - AR Rahman & Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan- Gurus of peace
the thing is finding peace isnt that simple.... its very difficult to be at peace with oneself... leave you being at peace with the world... and "world peace".... such a simple concept,... so difficult to attain!!!
this just started me thinking about reasons about why i can be restless/sad.... and then i stumbled on if someone i am in love with is sad..... then i went a step further.... someone i have a major crush on is sad.... the next thought was and he isnt sad because of me.... you dont even exist enough in his life to make him sad.... and this causes you pain.... i felt sadist even thinking about this... but somehow i felt if this was to happen to me... i might not acknowledge it but i will definitely feel it..... i felt bad thinking how low! am i the only one who thinks like this or does it happen to all of you???
am i normal or do i need to get myself enrolled in 'art of life'?

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nope.

Perfectly normal.

Like I said, even if it's a scenario it's an experience. And every experience that you construct could be a real experience being borne by someone else somewhere.

People do feel sad.It's fine to be sad. People want to be sad is what some people say!

Yep we do tend to string things together but doesn't that give you a hint?

Might be that it's a way of coping with something you don't want to acknowledge or it may just be wild thought which might have come up while reading a book which now got struck the right way!

I guess it happens!

On a different note, people who are in love knowing fully well of un-acknowledgement continue to love because the feeling is too strong and if it's honest; to difficult to ignore.

Like you said you might experience but might not acknowledge but this is not the case with everyone !

And moreover if you don't exist enough, you still hope to be the one to take that sadness away even if in a remote possibility. That's what drives people and to view it as selfish itself also might not be wrong since it gives the person happiness to remove the sadness of someone they love to the core.

It's amazing how much people can do when they are in love!

Note: Again a string'd conversation!

I like this
"Preet ki let mohe aisi lagi, ho gayi main matwali, bali bali jao apne piya ko, hey main jaoon wari wari...............tune kya kar daala marr main mit gayi main ho ji haan ji ho gayi main teri dewani!!!"

Anonymous said...

On the main topic of peace..

It always starts with self.
Be at peace with yourself, then you'll have peace with other people, who will have peace with others and so on and you might get World Peace !

Anonymous said...

Anonymous1 and anonymous2 are same as anonymous3 !!

Unknown said...

Hey!
Thanks for all your comments! would have loved it if you could have signed your name but nonetheless :-)
Like Anonymous3 said Anonymous1,2 and 3 seem to be equal-ly anonymous!
Anonymous1:
"And moreover if you don't exist enough, you still hope to be the one to take that sadness away even if in a remote possibility." this feeling is not a problem... it sounds like a very positive feeling... very pure very 'right'... my problem is "not thinking about taking away the sadness... but thinking of existing first"... i dont know how to put it in words..... but then again... doesnt matter!
and thanks for your Comment :-)

Anonymous 2:
I agree world peace has to start with 'self-peace'.. but i think one is as difficult to achieve as the other...

Anonymous said...

haha c'mon.
I meant Anon1,2,3 and now 4 is the same person!

I thought you could figure out but I was wrong ;-)

Yep 'existing' is a problem if you tend to think that way but I guess if you worry about existing you actually do. For that person to know it categorically is not that important since if you believe cosmic union, they are united by a cosmic thread !

Unknown said...

of course i guessed 1-2-3 were one! hence "equal-ly"... but then again i was taught not to assume anything!
And i dont agree with "For that person to know it categorically is not that important since if you believe cosmic union, they are united by a cosmic thread !"
Because the Only problem here is the person not knowing u exist... ofcourse you know you exist... but you want someone else to acknowledge the fact too... and as per being united by a cosmic thread... it doesnt matter... it feels more like "Dil ke khush rakhne ko Ghalib yeh khayal achha hai"

Anonymous said...

Yep,
Dil ke khuah rakhne ko ghalib yeh khayal aacha hai.

But then again, the person not knowing you exist could be in two cases :
1) That person was not approached
2) That person just plain ignored.

In case 1 I'd say go ahead inform.
In the other case atleast you expressed. Now hope, pray do whatever holds your faith. It's more peaceful than simmering inside!!

Like:
Har baat gawaara kar loge mannat bhi utaara(or smthng) kar loge, taavezein bhi banwaoge jab ishq tumhe ho jayega

I guess people do all sort of things which somehow also do provide some peace.

So that's case 2 for you.
In case it's case 1, do something don't burn inside.

You don't have to be Howard Roark to burn yourself in desire and not acknowledge it. I guess you can choose not to torment yourself like he did !

P.S.: Not assuming is being objective but then again, it's OK to assume a lot of things on abstract premises !!

Note: Same ANON continuing :)

Anonymous said...

*khush

Anonymous said...

1 more thing I thought hence another comment!

Would you say you don't exist for a person if you express your feelings and the other person just doesn't react.

I guess some will say this is non-existance but I guess this is to exist but not being acknowledged. Some people can ignore people, some can switch their mind and others can plainly resist the temptation.

So even if you think you don't exist, you might actually be very very much existing but you don't get to see anything since it's being blocked by lot of filters!!

Like: some preconceived notion, some circumstance, some basic acceptance criteria like should be beautiful, intelligent, should be known to me etc etc.

Now in that case your sadness arising out of non-existence could be mis-placed to an extent.

So best is do your thing. Leave the rest for him sitting up to handle, Hope for the best and try to stay in touch with that someone. It'll give you some peace which should translate into some 'world peace' ;-)

Anonymous said...

ANONYMOUS 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.....YOU ROCK......

Anonymous said...

ANONYMOUS 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.....YOU certainly ROCK......

do you have your blog post, i would like to read...

and to rudeaunty.... dont enroll in 'art of life' listen to anonymous 1to9...

....anonymous 10
and 10 is not equals to 1to9

Anonymous said...

Thanks rude_uncle and anonymous10 :)

Yeh kya ho gaya main soch raha tha this was about a blog written here by this lady!!

JFI->
Yep I do have a blog but that's personal ;-)

ANON continuing ...

Unknown said...

Woah!!!

well agreed with anonymous 10 and rude_uncle.. anonymous 1-9 : u rock ;-)

"Would you say you don't exist for a person if you express your feelings and the other person just doesn't react." this is precisely what i meant!
and like you said it could be because of any reason... but what if to not react the other person doesnot have to make any effort... does not have to filter does not have to ignore... they simply couldnt bother less!! what then???
what you said about do what you want to leave the rest to him is ok... but that is not the point... the point is it hurts when you realise you dont exist/your existence is not acknowledged... it sometimes hurts so bad that you are even ready to be a reason for misery to the other person just so u know u exist...

P.S: thanks for pouring your thoughts :-) reminds me of bulletin board!

Anonymous said...

ANON continues:
if a girl w/o name is called Anamika can a guy be name Anamik !!

Thanks for this blog actually since I took my share of happiness for pouring some thoughts that I have :)


Actually I realized this case after I wrote the comment but then again I waited for you to raise it!!


"but what if to not react the other person doesnot have to make any effort... does not have to filter does not have to ignore... they simply couldnt bother less!! what then???
what you said about do what you want to leave the rest to him is ok... but that is not the point... the point is it hurts when you realise you dont exist/your existence is not acknowledged... it sometimes hurts so bad that you are even ready to be a reason for misery to the other person just so u know u exist..."


If the other person doesn't react and he/she doesn't need an effort then it simply would mean you don't matter which is your point. But in continuation my point is that the premise was not set correctly in the sense that you should be aware of this beforehand! Also, I'd say the problem was expecting. More can be resolved if you would just hope and not expect. Hope doesn't make you desperate. Doesn't cause you pain to an extent that you would want to hurt.

I guess I can fairly understand the issue of non-existence and the desire to hurt for making presence felt. The whole problem in this was that we start expecting a certain courtesy, certain acknowledgment. If you just turn your expectation to hope you get inner peace. Even though it hurts you are one with the fact that, that person will not in all probability react/acknowledge your existence.

And on a different note hurting is not that much fun as getting hurt. Like I said in one of your blog comments, feelings make you feel alive and it's a choice to be happy sad then sad sad.

Ecstatic love for someone means 'ram jaana'. To loose your identity not to destroy other's!!!!

"Todo phenko rakho karo kuch bhi, dil humara hai kya(or ya!) khilona hai"!

Yep feels like BB with a difference ;-)

Unknown said...

yes the problem is expecting.... i think that is the root cause for all problems in this world... isnt it?
i dont get the salary i expect - i am sad
i dont do the kind of work i expect to - i say my work sucks
so on and so forth....
but if we could adjust our expectations like may be the brightness on my comp screen life wouldn't be as much fun as it is!
i might keep telling myself no i dont expect... but i do.... over time it might change... i might start believeing what i have been telling myself... but thats a lot of time...
but yes agree to "hurting is not that much fun as getting hurt. " Although after you have hurt (yourslef) a lot... a lot... all the poetry is lost and what reamins is a not so good hurt... just hurt... which i dont like....

Anonymous said...

Yep :)

Feelings don't have a control but that's what makes it a lively.

Comp's don't live, they don't have to cope with lot of things. We do.

Agreed hurt after a long time is plain hurt and the poetry is all lost. But I like to believe that loose your existence relieves you of this pain.

Pain can be addictive too though I don't have much experience in that !!!


"Peeja aayam ki talkhi ko bhi haske nasir, Gham ko sehne main bhi kudrat ne mazaa rakha hai"


I guess for all feeling it's true not just sadness or pain. I guess excess of anything is bad. What I was talking about was the feeling of hope. Just try and have hope. Trying won't hurt. We all do expect , it's just so impromptu but if you recall your premise when you start feeling hurt you'll hold yourself a little longer and a little better.

What say!